“Inclusive Collective” Podcast Unpacks Inclusive Network Building With Christiaan Heijmen and Farad Ali

This week's episode also focuses on the ways real leaders are doubling down on inclusion and why recruiters should never use the word "fit."

“Inclusive Collective” Podcast Unpacks Inclusive Network Building With Christiaan Heijmen and Farad Ali

The “Inclusive Collective” podcast, co-hosted by Nadia Butt and Rob Hadley, illuminates the complexities around diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) in the business world. Each week, Butt and Hadley welcome a different guest to the show to explore and celebrate the guest’s industry of expertise, sharing perspectives from those who advocate for change. Invited guests include leaders, teams and experts in various industries who share the ways they strive to implement inclusive workplaces, whether within the business world or everyday interpersonal interactions.

On this week’s episode, Butt and Hadley are joined by the dynamic executive recruiting duo of Christiaan Heijmen and Farad Ali, co-founders of the inclusive networking firm ALI | HEIJMEN. Their conversation explores how the duo met, their mission to build communities by introducing diverse networks and their unique strategy for diversifying talent pipelines within companies. Other discussion points include about inclusive network building, the ways real leaders are doubling down on inclusion and why recruiters should never use the word "fit."

Later, Butt and Hadley applaud JP Morgan's Jamie Dimon's red-blooded, capitalist backing of DEI, and are taken back by Wayfair's recent layoffs. The hosts also share their reflections on Greg Poole's decision to suspend a student for wearing locs, discrimination faced by the South Florida Muslim Federation and issues at children's clothing company Kyte Baby. Finally, Butt discusses the significance of public outrage over perceived “Barbie” (2023) Oscar snubs while America Ferrera’s nomination for Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role remains overlooked.

The latest episode of “Inclusive Collective” — titled “Jamie Dimon Shows the Way, Wayfair Says ‘Remote’ Equals ‘Lazy,’ and Inclusive Executive Recruiters Farad Ali and Christiaan Heijmen” — is available now. Listen below or wherever you get your podcasts.

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